Kevin Emmrich


Publishing must not be available to free members.  That screen shot you showed is never visible to me.



Publishing is how the  songs get onto  Open Mic otherwise they sit  in  limbo until you are ready  to publish (like a draft ) .


Have you reached your  uplload  limit?


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EDIT:  ha, ha -- who posted this?   It looks like I am answering my own questions!!!  uh-oh, I've been watch dexter on netflix lately!

Eddie  Rhoades

 KID,  On a Mac you can always hit the command Z to restore a previous condition. 


MATT, It would be cheaper to complete a CD or an EP then copyright the entire album for the same price as one song.


Eddie R

Kevin Emmrich

I just uploaded a new song on open mic here and I haven't copyrighted it yet!


Am I open to folks stealing my song?   It doesn't sound like anything on country radio today, the recording is lousy, there's no real story line and it really doesn't even make much sense -- but I am worried that someone will take it and make it a #1 hit and not give me any credit.  What can I do about that?


Have you heard of To-The-Top Publishers in nashville?   They said I have a great sound (before they even heard my song!) and they want to re-record it in a Nashville Studio, put it on a compilation CD and send it out to 1,000 radio stations.   The demo will only cost $350, inclusion on the CD $100 (what a deal) and then $100 a month in pitching fees.   This seems cheap to me, it will save me the time and money of actually traveling to nashville and meeting people.  I can just stay at home and crank out the tunes myself -- and no cowriters to have to split all my royalty money with.   


Anyway, nice site you have here.  Do you know how to get a song to Jason Aldean?  It is a perfect song called "Her Kinda Party" and it even has a rap section in it (yo-yo!)   Talk to you all soon.

Matthew Hoggard
Hey Eddie R.
It was a joke. Marc hates copyright questions. I've been a member of marcs forums since 2008.
I appreciate it though.
M
Tina Swanson
Happy Birthday Marc!!! Mmmmmuah!!
Melissa  Yamello

Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear MAAA-AAAAAAAAB, Happy Birthday to you!  


 


Hope you and Tina have a great day today. I'll catch up on here soon! 


- Meh-lissa


 

Eddie  Rhoades

Matt,  I get it, a joke, same as Kevin's last post.


Eddie R

Woooops! Well, I went over to Facebook to wish MAB happy birthday, but I forgot about it here. That's a cool stick dancer there Melissa LOL


HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAB!!!



Here's hoping you have many, many more [healthy] ones to come!!! Note: Fast Eddie; You need to add a left handed guitar player to you emodicons LOL


phil g.

OD OldDog

Happy Birthday MAB!!!


 

Peggy Burnham

Happy Birthday MAB


Peggy

Kevin Emmrich

Happy (belated) Brithday to MAB!!!!!

Norman Harris
Happy Birthday MAB, from a sunny Brighton on the south coast of England.

I hope you have a great time.

Having a wee break after a busy period.

Will look in this week

Cheers

Nod
Marc-Alan  Barnette

Thank all of you for the Birthday wishes. Was a good One. Tina Dee Babe had a wonderful party for me and the day before we spent all day going back and forth to three hundred car dealers getting a new car. Nine days ago I noticed my transmission slipping in my good old 2008 Mazda Tribute. i put it in the shop last Monday only to find out it would cost more to fix than the car cost. So boom!! just when you get them paid off.....DA DA DA....(taps here!)

So we went back and forth and Ms. Dee Babe was in amazing form as she knocked all these salesmen on their butt. Put a hard nosed beautiful woman on the job and they can't say no to anything. Finally got it down to two candidates, another Mazda (would have been my fourth in 15 years) and a HONDA CVR. Finally about 8:00 pm, the HONDA won. It is gorgeous, my normal pure black and black. Almost enough black for me but I can't get those windows totally blacked out! But leather interior. Really very nice. AND HAS A BACK UP CAMERA SO I CAN SEE THE FACES OF THE PEOPLE I RUN OVER!!!! I hope to post some of those pictures sometime! LOL!


One of the newer things I do here are DRIVING tours of Nashville, where I actually take people aroujnd the town, show them the town of Franklin, take them on the MUSIC ROW tour, and downtown. It is actually pretty cool. So I have to have a decent vehicle for that as well. So this will work.


Thanks to Tina for kicking those guys butts. She is right upthere with my Ex-wife, Susan. She was the best I've ever seen. When we bought our house, she got the family to leave every thing they didn'[t want to leave, drop the price, and were about to give us money just to quit bothering them! Tina is right up there with her. So I am now all set.
The birthday was great, your wishes wonderful and now we are back to buisness.


We are going to start fresh on some things that we have covered a long time ago. Some of you may roll your eyes, some will read them and be reminded of where you were not long ago, and some might find some new information. I am on a MAJOR BRINGING NEW MEMBERS PUSH RIGHT NOW and have quite a few tours lined up to bring new people over. During my songwriting tours most of it is going through their material and knowledge. We don't have time to cover everything, so I am going to be bringing them here.


I want you all to participate as you can. I know a lot of people like to "LIKE" things and that is cool, but I want to know what you THINK and how it affects you. So please respond to posts I do. That is what makes this different than all other forums, facebook, etc. Everybody needs to know each other. And one of my "sales points" of the Ramp is that people can intereact with other people, privately, and get private critiques and information. That is what makes us different. We are all working on this here. So in a bit when I get rolling I want you to pay attention and comment if you can. 

Remember, that there are a LOT of people out there who READ along and  might be too afraid to comment. Think of it like YOU ARE TALKING TO YOU. Someone juust like you in another town city or country. They have somewhat the same skills, information, but MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME FRIENDS OR SOCIAL SETTINGS AROUND THEM. So do your best in your answers to invite them over and be inclusive. 

So get ready. Class is about to start over.


MAB 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 

Kevin Emmrich

Matt,  I get it, a joke, same as Kevin's last post.  -- Eddie R


Actually, mine is not that much of a joke.  The #1 thing MAB can do for folks is SAVE THEM MONEY!   If you visit other songwriting forums, the biggest traps folks seem to fall into is this "put your lyrics to music", complitation CD's, getting demos or paying for pitching before being close to ready, and looking for how to get songs to big stars (usually songs they already have in the repertoire).   


If MAB's approach and info can stop them from wasting a few thousand dollars, then we will have performed a great service.

Eddie  Rhoades

Last week I attended a Native Plant Conference in Cullowhee, NC. There was a talent contest of 12 participants and I won first place with my song "Love Stinks." People were falling out of their chairs laughing at it. Before I sang I told them I had quit taking Viagara as the only effect it had on me was to make me taller. Anyway, my prize was two pawpaw plants. After the contest a live band played from 8:30 till 11:30 without taking a break. We all danced up a storm. Women outnumbered men 3 to 1 so I had quite a choice of dancing partners. The previous night we did Contra dancing. My friend who went there with me ask what was Contra dancing? I told him it was similar to square dancing. We stayed in air-conditioned dorms with a private bathroom.


Eddie R

Marc-Alan  Barnette

I loved that song when the TUBES cut it Eddie. I didn't know you wrote that. I hear it all the time on the radio and television commercials. You must get a nice chunk of mailbox money on that one. Congratulations!

MAB 


 

Eddie  Rhoades

I listened to the version on You Tube and the lyrics are not even close to my song. Thanks for the heads up, it's not too late to change the title of my song.


Eddie R

Marc-Alan  Barnette

I was kidding you Eddie. I've noticed you don't catch that a lot here. I was letting you know that was a pretty huge hit. It was recently a commercial for the "Swifter" sweeper on television. Also been in a couple hundred movies. Was a top ten for the Tubes in the mid 80's. But they have made more from product placement and movies than they ever made when it was on the radio.

Can't copyright titles, wasn't really even about that. Just a joke about you having a title on a famous song. You should hear this one I am working on now, 
 "YESTERDAY I WAS ON THE EDMUND FITZGERALD WITH THE AMERICAN PIE LIVING IN SWEET HOME ALABAMA ALL SUMMER FALL AND WINTER LONG." Should be pretty cool.

MAB 


 


 

Eddie  Rhoades

You are right, I didn't catch the joke. I am a pretty literal person.I will have a song title for you coming up.


Eddie R

Eddie  Rhoades

There are nine song titles in the paragraph below. Can you name them? This paragraph won me 6th place in a Bad Writing Contest.


It was a rainy night in Georgia as I stood in the doorway with my girl watching a deep purple haze blowing in the wind across a harvest moon and wondered if the seeds I planted yesterday would still be there tomorrow or would they be gone with the wind.


Dang, right now I don't see but eight. I'll have to check back.


Eddie R

Big Ed Moore

"Love stinks" was by the J. Geils Band. Boston, you know. LOL!

Marc-Alan  Barnette

You are right. Thanks. I was thinking The Tubes' because I had heard something about them the other day on something. We were talking obscure 80's band.  J. Geils is correct. Thanks for correcting me. 

What you up to Large Edward? Saw the pictures of that horse you have now! What is that dog? About 300 pounds? Tina said you gave a call. Thanks for the wishes. Glad to hear you are doing well since you destroyed country with your rapping stuff. I blame the Big Ed phenomenon for taking our town down. You probably pitched those songs from Waka waka Wags, and Grandmaster MATT C! All you rap guys!!!!
MAB 


 


 


 


 


 

John Westwood

Oh  J Giels!  I always  thought it was Jake Isles.


diction is  such a malediction,
causes  nowt but flippin  friction
when folk  communicate.



 Its such a  dang blast  shame 
when the words all  sound the same
but  the meaning  gets lost
when national borders get crossed


 


Jay Krapper Paper wrapper

Marc-Alan  Barnette

                                                    OFF THE PLAYING FIELD

I have two current writer/artists that have recently said VIRTUALLY THE EXACT SAME THING to me, "I think you're going to be impressed with the new songs I'm writing." While I appreciate what they are saying, and understand what they mean, in reality, they shouldn't be making that as a sign of progression when it comes to music. NOBODY IMPRESSES ME!!" Unless they have dedication and keep doing it over and over all the time, through the years. If they KEEP COMING BACK, and KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

The reason is that I have PRETTY HIGH EXPECTATIONS. But it is NOT JUST ABOUT SONGS. It is about what they do BEYOND THE SONGS. This is how the music industry judges things. And how I do.


Everyone can become better songwriters. Just being around songs and writers, artists, doing shows, listening to others and WRITING MORE SONGS are going to MAKE YOU BETTER. YOU CAN'T HELP TO NOT GET BETTER. Although I have known and few that simply don't. Don;'t know why but they just don't. And mostly it is what they do or don't do BEYOND THE SONG. 

15% of a career is the song. Writing, performing, recording, presenting. Those are the bottom line and if you don't have that, you don't have anything. But 85% is OFF THE FIELD. It is SHOWING UP. Helping others. Learning about what you are doing. Making appointments. Writing more songs.  Meeting more people. Continually getting OUT OF THE LIVING ROOM.
Here are some ways you have to look at it.


PUBLISHERS. Everyone wants that Magic publisher to swoop in, tell them "I LOVE YOUR SONGS WE CAN GET THESE CUT BY EVERYBODY!! The Heavens to open, HEAVENLY CHOIR VOICES SINGING "AHHHHHHHHH" and them saying, "You are HERE!!! THE ONE THE PROPHECY HAS FORETOLLED!!!!!! Heaven Be praised!!!! Hosana's in the highest!!!!!"


Don't look for that. It don't happen.


What does happen is you meet a friend of a friend of a friend of a cousin who knows someone who takes out the garbage for someone who claims to be a publisher. Actually it is someone who met a publisher once while waiting on getting his tires rotated. Of course they were a publisher of Sunday newspaper inserts, but he was a PUBLISHER!
Just kidding. Almost.
Publishers don't mean what they used to.They used to be the all powerful, and while they still are important, they don't command the athourity they used to. They also don't make the money they used to. Can't collect on FREE!
But they are still around, and a few can still get things done, those songs working their way up the ladders and to the artists and producers who are how we get songs cut. Those are few and far between, but anyone who can give you advice and suggestions are greatly desired.


Everything is very low key. "Just come down and play a few songs." is usually the response you get.
At first that means just playing a couple things, usually a verse and a chorus, and they are going to tell you, "Don't hear anything right now, but drop back by sometime." This is usually very superficial, but sometimes they mean it. There is always hope, right? 


If you can get a "return meeting" (REFERALL), you are doing great. This is the same in any business and especially music. But here is where it gets BEYOND the  song.


The music business is  HUGE team effort. You have to include a lot of other people in anything. An artist recording songs, has his or her own songs first, those of their producer, manager people are bringing them in all the time, agents, lawyers, the record label, the publishing companies, friends of friends, they are all going on all the time. To get down to those 6-12 songs on a record, they are going to listen to about 3000 songs in the space of a few months. 
The legitimate publishers can help cut through many of those steps.


The most direct way is to write WITH the artist or their inner circles. So for a new writer, the first thing they are gonig to have to do is send them to write with other writers, artists, members of the community who are established. This is where the personalities come into play. No one wants to send over a spoiled child, a drug addled nut, someone with personality or mental issues. So they get to know you. And that is where it takes patience and meeting a LOT of people. And to get invited BACK. That is another trick in itself.


 


And the SONGS have to EXPLODE at people. They have to be so much better than what the publisher and their teams already have.  Many of those songs they have physical money invested in. The future of their kids, their relationships, their marraiges all depend on.  That is what you are trying to ride OVER. 
And it is not always the songs. If you write one with that artist that sums up EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY AND HOW THEY WANT TO SAY IT, that song is going to win out over everything. At least till that artist's team, who have their own songs and emotions and experiences that THEY WANT CUT TOO.


Challenge? You bet.


So you have to be on your game, but you also have to make them LOVE YOU! That is BEYOND THE SONG.


CO-WRITERS.
Same thing. Everyone who is in Nashville, (those people who are in PROXIMATY TO THE ARTISTS AND PUBLISHERS) are trying to "WRITE UP" TOO. They are doing the same thing. So what is it that you bring to their party? Whjat is it about your songs now that are going to get and keep attention? What is going to make them want to spend those 2-3 hours with you?


Do you bring in fresh interesting ideas?
Do you have a great sunny personality?
Do YOU have access to artists, publishers, producers? 
Are YOU established in the industry?
Are YOU bringing them something they can't do themselves? or with others? 


 


These  are the questions you need to ask yourself.  

MAB 


 


 


 


 


 

RiDawn Rae

Absolutely, Marc!!  It is a complex industry that requires being armed with thick skin, knowledge of the business, PATIENCE, etc. and the passion for music that supercedes all obstacles, with the balance of confidence and humility that will interchange for the duration of the journey.  I still don't know the business in its' entirety, but having you as my mentor/teacher gives me confidence that I will, and that in the meantime, you are saving me so much $$ in mistakes I'd have made, time, and embarassment for things I may have done trying to connect in networking, etc.  I have witnessed soooo many songwriters go from okay songs to better songs, thinking they're getting a deal, some getting a deal, only to fall through, to those with songs on hold, to not being cut, well, the list goes on.  Some have realized it's a process, some have not educated themselves enough to know better.  I have watched some friends stay at, what seems like, the exact same level of skill, and others get staff writer positions (though those don't happen these days), and some get cuts and have a solid reputation in the industry, yet still not have another cut for years.  Being willing to learn, grow, do other work to support our lives while we're constantly pursuing our craft of connecting as many people as we can through our music is what makes the biggest difference.  GETTING THE BEST ADVICE, FROM THE MOST EXPERIENCED IN THE BIZ, THAT WILL GET STRAIGHT TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER AND NOT WASTE OUR ALREADY SPREAD-THIN TIME IS CRUCIAL!!!   I can't stress that enough, because all you have to do is listen to what's out there, especially in your own home towns, and Nashville included, to know that some people think they don't need any further education.  They are inherently blessed with talent, and that's all they think it takes.  Well, it's my personal experience & observation that you have to have a child-like wonder and enthusiasm IN ADDITION to EVERYTHING ELSE, INCLUDING TRAINING.  You have to genuinely love people and the connection each phase of making music brings.  It helps if you have Marc-Alan on your side, BELIEVE ME!!  He can answer any questions AND is THE best networker I've met to date, and I have lived in several cities with several people claiming to be able to do what he does, but none have ever delivered like he can.  I know I sound like a broken record singing his praises, I have lived in Nashville for 18 years and have yet to meet anyone, or even hear of anyone, that can provide more support and results that Marc-Alan!!  Even when I don't have time to reply, I always take time to read what Marc writes as it ALWAYS either reinforces something I've been neglecting, or teaches me something all together new!!