Happy New Year All!!
MAB, sorry to hear about Janice. I think I met her once in Nashville, but I never really knew her. Sounds like she was amazing!
phil
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She was Phil. I'm doing a memorial to her now, will be on Facebook and post it here as well. Probably won't finish till tomorrow. We have Bobby's today. Starting out the year there with the new 12 string.
Thanks for posting.
MAB
JANICE STARODUB- 2017 RIP
How it CAN BE DONE
Hello everyone and happy New Year. Hope it has started well for all of you and I hope to be bringing you positive upbeat messages through 2018.
I must start out, however, on a somber note, in the passing of my good friend, co-writer, musical compadre, JANICE STARODUB, Of WINNIPEG, MANITOBA. Janice passed away from Cancer, New Year’s Eve, but like all things I do, I would prefer to celebrate the LIFE of the person, rather than focus on the demise.
I met her about 6 years ago, as she attended one of my SONGPOSIUM CLASSES, for NSAI’s workshop program. A mid 40’s, very attractive, reddish brunette, she asked more intelligent questions than anyone in the class, and while she showed up late, she actually seemed to absorb more than anyone. Sometimes you just get a feeling.
After I was finished, she stuck around and asked more questions and since I was already going to an industry showcase, I asked if she wanted to tag along.
Getting in my car, she said one of the funniest things I’ve heard. “I am doing exactly what my Mother told me not to do. Get in a car and go somewhere with a guy I don’t know, who says he’s going to help my career.”
Sometimes you have to listen to your mother with a grain of salt.
Over the next four years we became best friends, confidants, co-writers and all around buddies. I gave her some ins and outs of Nashville, pushed her in some right directions and kept her out of some wrong directions. She showed me Canadian life, REALLY COLD WEATHER, how to get a car started in 40 below weather (Get an idiot guy from Nashville to go start it and sit in it, LOL!), and introduced me to dozens of people I would have never met. She was amazing that way.
She was an incredible person. Always positive, endless energy, boundless optimism. She never believed something couldn’t be done. She would see something and go do it. I always warned her about overreaching expectations. Most people who try to do this, suffer from this. But she never suffered from that. She achieved whatever she sat out to do.
She improved the life of everyone she ever met. Especially me.
She was a living embodiment of what I believe we all have to be, and anyone trying to approach music HAS TO BE. When there was no LOCAL scene in Winnipeg, (and if you knew the weather in Winnipeg, you would know why) she INVENTED ONE. Starting out with one writer/artist, who she brought to Nashville to work with me, she soon had dozens. All types of people, males, females, groups, duos. I would go up there and she would bring them here and there was never a dull minute.
She had this funny way of talking and never breathing. I’d see her familiar number come up on my phone, and I knew I’d be in for an hour of nonstop conversation. Never figured out how she could do that. IT was like this rapid fire nonstop about EVERYTHING. I’d be worn out after our conversations and I DIDN’T SAY MUCH OF ANYTHING!
But I did kind of have fun with her when she would tell me how tough it all was. She was dealing with publishers, writers, artististic ego, producers, labels, people that were boorish, guys that constantly hit on her, people who would literally suck her dry for info or energy and she would STILL KEEP GOING. But I always used to say after one of these long, exasperated diatribes, “THIS IS THE EASY PART!”
She never found that as funny as I did.
Cause it didn’t matter. She was just going to rise above, and keep on going. She helped one pair of brothers, Tom and Jason, PETRIC,
Rise to the top of the Canadian heap with hit records, tours and nomination for Canadian duo of the year honors. (If I get this wrong, folks, please correct me. I missed some of this stuff.) Ano0ther artist, she helped go to CHINA. She was truly a worldwide phenomenon.
And everyone LOVED HER!
She was well known in Canada but also in America. She made regular trips to Nashville to meet with hit writers and artists, producers, publishers, and had a dual career in both places. She just kept going. The real ENERGIZER BUNNY!
She was beautiful, smart, funny, as hell. Never met a stranger. Was a good wife and mother of three great kids.
She really could DO IT ALL.
I lost a little contact with her over the past two or three years as she just was over busy and as usual, I am into my own things and the next project. But we wrote a few songs, shared a bunch of great times and I think made a difference. I know she made a difference in me.
My deepest condolences to her friends and family and hope you find your ways to get through all this. I know she would tell you to “get your butt in gear, and keep going!” She was kind of like that.
Janice, you goof! I miss you a lot. Love you and so glad I got to know you! Take care girl! You made a difference.
MAB
How it CAN BE DONE
Hello everyone and happy New Year. Hope it has started well for all of you and I hope to be bringing you positive upbeat messages through 2018.
I must start out, however, on a somber note, in the passing of my good friend, co-writer, musical compadre, JANICE STARODUB, Of WINNIPEG, MANITOBA. Janice passed away from Cancer, New Year’s Eve, but like all things I do, I would prefer to celebrate the LIFE of the person, rather than focus on the demise.
I met her about 6 years ago, as she attended one of my SONGPOSIUM CLASSES, for NSAI’s workshop program. A mid 40’s, very attractive, reddish brunette, she asked more intelligent questions than anyone in the class, and while she showed up late, she actually seemed to absorb more than anyone. Sometimes you just get a feeling.
After I was finished, she stuck around and asked more questions and since I was already going to an industry showcase, I asked if she wanted to tag along.
Getting in my car, she said one of the funniest things I’ve heard. “I am doing exactly what my Mother told me not to do. Get in a car and go somewhere with a guy I don’t know, who says he’s going to help my career.”
Sometimes you have to listen to your mother with a grain of salt.
Over the next four years we became best friends, confidants, co-writers and all around buddies. I gave her some ins and outs of Nashville, pushed her in some right directions and kept her out of some wrong directions. She showed me Canadian life, REALLY COLD WEATHER, how to get a car started in 40 below weather (Get an idiot guy from Nashville to go start it and sit in it, LOL!), and introduced me to dozens of people I would have never met. She was amazing that way.
She was an incredible person. Always positive, endless energy, boundless optimism. She never believed something couldn’t be done. She would see something and go do it. I always warned her about overreaching expectations. Most people who try to do this, suffer from this. But she never suffered from that. She achieved whatever she sat out to do.
She improved the life of everyone she ever met. Especially me.
She was a living embodiment of what I believe we all have to be, and anyone trying to approach music HAS TO BE. When there was no LOCAL scene in Winnipeg, (and if you knew the weather in Winnipeg, you would know why) she INVENTED ONE. Starting out with one writer/artist, who she brought to Nashville to work with me, she soon had dozens. All types of people, males, females, groups, duos. I would go up there and she would bring them here and there was never a dull minute.
She had this funny way of talking and never breathing. I’d see her familiar number come up on my phone, and I knew I’d be in for an hour of nonstop conversation. Never figured out how she could do that. IT was like this rapid fire nonstop about EVERYTHING. I’d be worn out after our conversations and I DIDN’T SAY MUCH OF ANYTHING!
But I did kind of have fun with her when she would tell me how tough it all was. She was dealing with publishers, writers, artististic ego, producers, labels, people that were boorish, guys that constantly hit on her, people who would literally suck her dry for info or energy and she would STILL KEEP GOING. But I always used to say after one of these long, exasperated diatribes, “THIS IS THE EASY PART!”
She never found that as funny as I did.
Cause it didn’t matter. She was just going to rise above, and keep on going. She helped one pair of brothers, Tom and Jason, PETRIC,
Rise to the top of the Canadian heap with hit records, tours and nomination for Canadian duo of the year honors. (If I get this wrong, folks, please correct me. I missed some of this stuff.) Ano0ther artist, she helped go to CHINA. She was truly a worldwide phenomenon.
And everyone LOVED HER!
She was well known in Canada but also in America. She made regular trips to Nashville to meet with hit writers and artists, producers, publishers, and had a dual career in both places. She just kept going. The real ENERGIZER BUNNY!
She was beautiful, smart, funny, as hell. Never met a stranger. Was a good wife and mother of three great kids.
She really could DO IT ALL.
I lost a little contact with her over the past two or three years as she just was over busy and as usual, I am into my own things and the next project. But we wrote a few songs, shared a bunch of great times and I think made a difference. I know she made a difference in me.
My deepest condolences to her friends and family and hope you find your ways to get through all this. I know she would tell you to “get your butt in gear, and keep going!” She was kind of like that.
Janice, you goof! I miss you a lot. Love you and so glad I got to know you! Take care girl! You made a difference.
MAB
Oh no so many are lost to that horrible C WORD she was such a sweet person I never got to meet her in person but we chatted a lot on social network ..prayers go out to her family
R.I.P Janice you will be missed.
F
The South meets the North. Canukians and Alabamians meeting of the minds. Hey Yrall!
Or:
Or:
YRALL IN DA HOUZE!!!! KING OF THE CANADIAN RAPPERS!
No Rap please not from me anyway.
well I did a MAB type a whole page then lost it
in short I nwhat I saide was ive been getting out to writers night eve4tu swednesdxay meeting new artiazts that maske the trip to Nashville. to tiresd to finish this post right nos but here ios a .linkil try and come backm tpo correct all the s[pelling soirry
in short I nwhat I saide was ive been getting out to writers night eve4tu swednesdxay meeting new artiazts that maske the trip to Nashville. to tiresd to finish this post right nos but here ios a .linkil try and come backm tpo correct all the s[pelling soirry
Ok lets try this onemore time lol Ive been getting out once a week to writers night meeting new artists Jared Hicks, Joe Dillstrom,Kyle Natugal,Gary Scott Bob MondyRuell Chappell[Ozark Mountain Daredevils . Molly Heally ,Mckenna& Brock,,Porter Union,Bryan Copeland[LUNA J]
I give all the credit to Mab for getting me3 out of the living room and into the thick ofg it even though sometimes I don't make oit backj home on my own {meds wear off} hav4 to call cab or get someone to tive me ride again sorry for my typing IOve currently golt a cvopuple of com writes coming up with some of these artists BRYaN,,AND KYLE I weill find a linkl
well time for me to leave again getting sloppy new PC thnisa week lkearning keyboard all over
DAVID WAGONER, A TRIBUTE
David it's good to hear you back over here and what you are doing. That is EXACTLY what I try to get people to think about when they are trying to do this. You are a tribute to what I talk about and the fact that you are getting out, AND overcoming YOUR HEALTH ISSUES, are what should be an inspiration to others of what can be done.
For those who don't know, David has been a Ramper for many years and I've actually met him when he came to Nashville before and followed his progress over the years. He has a physical condition, (David I don't want to say what it is, because I know several people with different maladies and I can't remember each specifc one, but it is a serious issue that requires you to take medication, and be closely monitored. You can help me here if you tell what it is but I'll leave that to you.} but he has kept going over the years.
A few years back, he teamed up with MATT CASEY, another Ramper, (There are a LOT of people who have come through here, but due to life getting in the way, or just plain moving on to other things, they don't have the ability to continue to participate or comment) and the two of them, along with a third writer (I think it was Keith, but not sure)
wrote a song, "PLAIN WHITE TEE" which won the NSAI song contest for that year and was recognized at the NSAI Tin Pan South kick off. Very cool.
Over the years, we hear from David, and I know he is still doing it, over all his physical issues. So the fact that he is GETTING OUT OF THE LIVING ROOM, and going to writer's nights, are a testament to his veracity. What he has mentioned here, is exactly what I talk about.
When we are "LIVING ROOM WRITERS" that simply means the people who sit at home, write their own songs, sometimes put them on the Internet, sometimes just have them on their computers or home recording, and really never go much further than that. And this is understandable. Songwriting is usually a very solo, introspective process. We write about OUR EXPERIENCES, OUR FEELINGS, OUR LIVES. That is very personal.
So no problem there.
But if people want to GET INTO THE GAME, INTO THE BUSINESS, INTO BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY, THEY HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE LIVING ROOM. They have to do what EVERYBODY ELSE who is really in the game has to do.
Artists, can't just sit home and expect people to come to them, and money come rolling in. Now, having said that, I do understand that there are people being able to work the Internet well to their advantage. Many do home recordings, camera phones, and are building FAN BASE. Some negotiate that to a financial business.
But if you do research on these people, you will find that usually they ALSO have a physical presence. Many have had record or publishing deals in the past. Many have had established careers, and an existing fan base. The Net, just allows them to expand that.
I am somewhat that type of person. I've spent 35-40 years actually physically performing, and being known through a variety of phases in my career, from my early ROCK years, to my Nashville existence. I also have had 20 years of teaching, AND being "OUT THERE" through my work with NSAI, the Songwriter's Guild, and other songwriting organizations, colleges, and word of mouth.
I am currently doing more and more on YOU TUBE, FACEBOOK, etc. Not doing my "own channel" yet, but responding to requests from friends around the country. Many who can't make it to Nashville to work with me, but might want songwriting or performance tips. I'm doing videos and posting my advice, answering questions.
So the Net is a useful tool for many of us.
But if you are NOT known, the endless amounts of younger people, posting their really badly written songs, or thoughts on the Net, endlessly putting stuff up, outside of their family and friends, WHO CARES? It's not building them an audience, or really HELPING them get better until they GET OUT AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. They are just endless blips of electronic pulses, Like the millions posted a day.
Now, if they are ALSO getting out, performing live, meeting people face to face, the opposite is true. The net can assist them.
Now, if they are ALSO getting out, performing live, meeting people face to face, the opposite is true. The net can assist them.
And that brings me back to David. I have encouraged him to get out of his home and venture into the writers nights and meeting artists. Now he has and it is going to have a lot of positive effects for him. David is physically not able to be a performer, so he has to find performers to BE AN EXTENSION of what he does. This is the right way and very admirable. GREAT JOB DAVE.
So that is my overall thing. You have to continue to reach out and find other people to EXTEND YOUR REACH. That is what the local scene and finding artists are about. And you don't have to do it EVERY NIGHT, or even EVERY WEEK. Once you have started some relationships, you can usually continue those online. Many people now SKYPE write, FACE TIME, or simply send texts or music back and forth. And since you can interact with MULTIPLE people at the same time, you can have a lot going on simultaneously.
So congratulations David. Glad to hear you still working at it and glad to see you drop by back here. I hope we can get some more conversations going. My entire reason for being here has always been to offer suggestions, advice and hope for people. As long as you are around, so will I.
Take care.
MAB
Wow Thank you MAB that means a lot to me ...your information and leadership advice have been right on,
KEITH Dozier the other writer on PWTee just landed a cut on the last Album from Mongemery & Gerntry
I might add another Ramper Chris ISING whom ive hadf the pleasure to cowrite with from Canada won the JOSIE award last year.. Keith and I along with ramper Cindy Roge have several more songs to demo ..before I get too messy omn here due to my PARKINSONS which affect people differently I just wnt to say thanks again WAG
KEITH Dozier the other writer on PWTee just landed a cut on the last Album from Mongemery & Gerntry
I might add another Ramper Chris ISING whom ive hadf the pleasure to cowrite with from Canada won the JOSIE award last year.. Keith and I along with ramper Cindy Roge have several more songs to demo ..before I get too messy omn here due to my PARKINSONS which affect people differently I just wnt to say thanks again WAG
KEITH DOZIER!! That is his name. I ought to know that, I always call him "BULL DOZIER". LOL! Yeah, he is in the publishing company that Matt Casey, and Allen Shervelle started. So you see how all this works. Matt needed to align himself with more writers, comes to meet me, I introduce him to Allen, they start writing, he comes here, writes with you, you guys get some credibility with the NSAI win, all of your names and reputation rises, Matt and Allen start a publishing company, Allen and Keith are good friends and co-writers and they bring him in. Matt does shows that help Keith get known, and they end up getting a cut on the last Montgomery Gentry album. Great how these things line up.
Of course there are always challenges when it comes to this. The entire music industry is full of "BUT'S". Troy Gentry died last year in a helicopter crash, and I don't know what state their business is in. A lot of times we get "CUTS" on records that never actually come out. I've had several on artists who lost their deals, or things like the OWNER of the label dies, and the entire company folds. So even getting "cuts" don't always mean it is smooth sailing.
And the "dead folks" thing can go two ways. One is the sympathy factor and that can work well. Most artists like those have loyal fan base so if something is released, it can be cool.
And the "dead folks" thing can go two ways. One is the sympathy factor and that can work well. Most artists like those have loyal fan base so if something is released, it can be cool.
The other side is the short memories of most music listeners and it is very easy to end up in the "Who?" category.
I hope it doesn't work that way for the guys, but you always have to be prepared if it does.
I remember a friend of mine had a hit on the radio on George Strait and then heard it about three years later on a radio station who introduced it as an "OLDIE BUT GOODIE!" We have such a short attention span you can go from the top of the heap to the answer of a trivia question really quickly.
But you have to celebrate all your victories and all you guys have done well at staying at it, and keeping yourselves and others motivated.
Glad you checked in Dave and hope you keep at it. I'm always around if you need something.
MAB
I'm sad to announce that our website, www.SongRamp.net is closing, after 17 years of operation.
We've had one helluva run! For any internet site to be around for 17 years, is quite impressive!
We've had close to 50,000 Registrations, in that time. We host over 10,000 original songs. We've had countless friendships formed, marriages (and divorces), births and, sadly deaths.
Just like the real world - only safer!
I want to thank you all for being a part of this site - SongRamp would have been nothing, but for the RAMPERS! And I especially want to thank the one and only MAB, for hanging with us, through thick and thin. Marc, you've been a great influence on this site and on every member smart enough to listen to your advice!
We will continue to have our SongRamp Facebook Page -
https://www.facebook.com/SongRamp/
- which I hope you'll encourage your friends and family to join.
Our problem here has simply been one of lack of interest - we've had fewer and fewer new members - coupled with lower and lower participation on the part of the existing membership. It's simply not sustainable. We all have so many other "internet things," to serve our needs.
So - you have until 12/31/2018 to do what you will with your songs, profiles and photos. I wish you the very best with them.
Those of you who have been gracious enough to continue to send money, in support of SongRamp, are advised to stop your autopay, immediately - we will be shutting down all our PayPal and credit cards options, ASAP.
As of today, SongRamp.Net will not be accepting new Members.
I love you all and THANK YOU for 17 Years of SongRamp!
Eddie
We've had one helluva run! For any internet site to be around for 17 years, is quite impressive!
We've had close to 50,000 Registrations, in that time. We host over 10,000 original songs. We've had countless friendships formed, marriages (and divorces), births and, sadly deaths.
Just like the real world - only safer!
I want to thank you all for being a part of this site - SongRamp would have been nothing, but for the RAMPERS! And I especially want to thank the one and only MAB, for hanging with us, through thick and thin. Marc, you've been a great influence on this site and on every member smart enough to listen to your advice!
We will continue to have our SongRamp Facebook Page -
https://www.facebook.com/SongRamp/
- which I hope you'll encourage your friends and family to join.
Our problem here has simply been one of lack of interest - we've had fewer and fewer new members - coupled with lower and lower participation on the part of the existing membership. It's simply not sustainable. We all have so many other "internet things," to serve our needs.
So - you have until 12/31/2018 to do what you will with your songs, profiles and photos. I wish you the very best with them.
Those of you who have been gracious enough to continue to send money, in support of SongRamp, are advised to stop your autopay, immediately - we will be shutting down all our PayPal and credit cards options, ASAP.
As of today, SongRamp.Net will not be accepting new Members.
I love you all and THANK YOU for 17 Years of SongRamp!
Eddie
SONGRAMP, FINAL BOW
Well, it seems the curtain is closing here, and while we all will hate to see it go, we will also celebrate the relationships we have built, the connections we have made and the experiences we have shared here.
I wanted to thank all of you for including me in your songwriting experience and I've enjoyed my time with all of you. Sitting in Nashville, doing guitar pulls, sharing a ton of fun, songs, stories, etc.
I met an amazing crew with the Canadians, OD, Phil, Kevin, so many that have been in and out over the years. Had some spirited discussions over the years, who can forget OTT Luck, and many Nash Bashers, and a ton of great information. I was able to visit some areas I never would have and welcome a lot of people to my town and my world.
And especially you, Eddie. You are truly an amazing guy. Saving people in disasters worldwide and still trying to help people with their musical goals. That can never be understated. You have touched so many lives and I hope you realize that. Thank you. One of these days, you and I have to write one.
These things all have a life span. this one actually has lasted a LOT longer than most. So that is due to people's involvement. But as people get involved with other things, or unfortunately, have health issues or simply Die, even the best things sometimes have to come to an end. So it's time.
For anyone who ever wants anything from me, my FACEBOOK site has videos and musings constantly, as well as where I perform and what I do. And always my web site is open. Always glad to have you. I will soon have a YOU TUBE SITE up and running and hope some of you will attend there.
All in all, it's been a great ride. Thank you all for including me. Great luck to all of you in your musical journey, and if you ever need me, I'm always around.
www.marcalanbarnette.com
www.marcalanbarnette.com
MBarne4908@aol.com
(615) 417-7181.
(615) 417-7181.
Best always,
MAB
ONE LAST RESPONSE:
Phil, I had lost track of this thread (part of the problem Eddie talked about with less involvement.) But I wanted to mention a couple of last thoughts on "making money in today's music marketplace.
First of all, my overall thought is that music is NOT where you go to make money. it is where you go for artistic expression, fun, sharing what's inside with you with as many people as you can. As you do that and get more and more serious about it, there are ways money might come. But that should be viewed as "gravy" for the experience, not the main course.
First of all, my overall thought is that music is NOT where you go to make money. it is where you go for artistic expression, fun, sharing what's inside with you with as many people as you can. As you do that and get more and more serious about it, there are ways money might come. But that should be viewed as "gravy" for the experience, not the main course.
We have taken incredible hits in music and it just doesn't pay much anymore. And I was around in the 80's, 90's and 2000's and believe me, it DIDN'T PAY AS MUCH THEN EITHER. It is just always a very tough thing because at the end of the day, YOU ARE WORTH WHAT PEOPLE PAY YOU FOR YOUR MUSIC.
That is always the thing that has bothered me about most people who try and do this and then ask WHERE IS THE MONEY? Usually the people who ask that DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WORTH BEING PAID FOR. They worry so much about "streaming revenue, music placements, getting publishing deals, ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, song pluggers and companies who "place music" They completely skip the first part which is
HAVE SOMETHING WORTH PAYING FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And so that is why I have always de-emphasized the money aspect of music. In the people you mentioned, the people who write, perform, be their own entity, they have AUDIENCES which are who pay them for what they do.
The vast vast vast majority, will never have that. They just write something, throw it OUT THERE, without ever caring about SHOULD IT BE OUT THERE.
And so that is why I have always de-emphasized the money aspect of music. In the people you mentioned, the people who write, perform, be their own entity, they have AUDIENCES which are who pay them for what they do.
The vast vast vast majority, will never have that. They just write something, throw it OUT THERE, without ever caring about SHOULD IT BE OUT THERE.
So over the past 25 years, that is what I have seen. An overall decline in the viability of music, due to a decline in the VALUE OF MUSIC. And that is what in my opinion we have. A BILLION SONGS OUT THERE, that should have stayed on someone's computer. But it all gets put out there, everyone playing, everyone singing, every one writing, and it DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. Because there is no audience for it.
It is GOLF.
Millions of people spending billions of dollars, almost none making any money at it. Because they frankly are just not good enough, don't work it, and most GIVE UP.
There will always be a MAJOR MUSIC BUSINESS. There will always be people at the top of the pyramid. There will always be CELEBRITY. And there will always be people in areas, who motivate it for themselves build their own word, fan base and do just fine.
But I would always suggest people be careful on what they spend.
Enjoy yourself.
But I would always suggest people be careful on what they spend.
Enjoy yourself.
Be a part of your community.
Be good at what you do.
Be good at what you do.
Do great things for yourself and others.
Touch lives.
Good luck,
MAB
It's a sad day for me.Songramp has always been my home away from home for the last ten years or so.I met most I'd say 98% of my co-writers here.From my first co-write with Eddie.I also have two groups on Facebook.Songwriters Unite By Songramp which Eddie suggested and my Lyrics Are Us By Songramp.We could gather there and write or post songs.Like I've said right from the word go I'll be staying here right to the end.To all my Songramp brothers and sisters I wish you all Da Best.God bless you all and thanks for picking me to be a co-writer.Much appreciated.
Yrral Mallik aka Larry Boy Killam Songramp Larry.
Songwriters Unite By Songramp over 11,200 memebers
Lyrics R Us By Songramp over 1,000 members
Hi Everyone! I haven't posted in a while, mainly because I haven't had any more questions that I could ask. I read when someone else posts. I haven't been able to comment on my phone so I always have to wait until I can get on the computer, if I don't forget. lol
In the beginning for me, I remember MAB saying something about 5 years. I thought, I don't need 5 years I am pretty good already. ha. It is coming up on my 5 years and I have to admit that what I know now is so much farther along that 5 years ago. If I were to have gotten a great opportunity back then, it would have been wasted because I wasn't ready. I am still learning and hope to always be. I go to seminars, workshops, connect with local artists, read, listen etc. etc.
I want to thank MAB for not telling me some of the work I had him read or listen to was crap, even though it was. Some of it wasn't bad, it was good for me and family and friends but not good enough for mainstream. I see that. That is one reason I keep trying to stretch and get better.
I thank everyone on songramp for being who they are and doing what they do. Supporting each other and giving advice. it has been a great group of people to be associated with. I will see some of you on facebook. My name on facebook is
Peggy Saunders Burnham.
Love to all of you
Peggy
Well Eddie, MAB, and all, I DID enjoy my time here. But for about the last year or so, I just have been negligent in participating. So, apologies. I guess that means I may be part of the reason we're signing off here. I will go find the FB page and follow it. BUT, be aware I rarely post on FB. I just follow along. I've made some good friendships here. OD, Kevin Emmrich, and the one and only MAB. In fact, I'm headed up to see MAB in March. Then OD, Kevin and I will share a house in Nashville the week of July 16 to go to MAB's birthday show the 20th. It's going to be a great full band show! So looking forward to it.
It's been fun!
phil
I'm saddened about the latest news of Songramp. This is where I met my first cowriters and made many friendships on this site, not to mention learning so much on songwriting from so many members, especially MAB. (Thank you MAB!) I look back and see that I should have continued to be a regular responder to the site but all I can say is life got in the way.
I'm experiencing that feeling of loss that happens when you know there's an ending to something great. May I please say thank you, especially to Eddie, and to all others who contributed to that "something great" thing called Songramp. I don't want to even attempt to call names because I'm afraid I'd leave someone out but I do realize there's always been a lot of work behind the scenes by several people. To each of you, I say, thank you! I do plan to stay in touch on FB and I'm thankful we can continue to have an outlet. Again, special thanks to you Eddie! You're amazing!
Denise
There may be a White Night, on the horizon! Stay tuned!
a white knight YEAH !!!!!!!
Long live Songramp.