Hi Mr Westwood, well putting my old 86 635i back on the road after a respray, no other car at the moment , sad having to use a non service transport system....
Re current trends, well I dont care or worry about them per se, the new trends are already locked in or not available to write against, just try to write the best song I can and even gulp horror just suggested doing a wrap bridge on the Lyric forum to one of my songs...
Also think if you write enough songs you will get your volume up of the 98% of popular girl boy thingy songs LOL It is all about writing songs.
That noted, I still have experienced 100's of writers who become "booty hurt" over even the most constructive critique. They don't realize that even though someone compliments their writing and means well, they really aren't helping the writer to better their music or their skills. Which is why 9 out of 10 lyrics posted on a lot of these sites is of very poor quality. More poem than lyric. Lacks structure, rhyme scheme, story line, syllable counts, a decent hook, and many of the other things that are important to writing a good song. And that includes me too. Even after all of these years, I struggle daily with coming up with something that is new, refreshing and covers all the basics.
But then there is a second side to that. Even if someone comes in here or the lyric forums on other sites, works hard to develop their writing, and puts their best foot forward, it is only a matter of time before they learn the truth from people with experience in the business. And the truth is, there is no future for them in the business. Even if they are talented, sing well, play well, write well, the odds are still stacked against them. And the fact is, most of them are just lyricists and/or porch pickers like me. I've had too many people than I can count tell me that they quit coming in and writing just because they read through these forums and everything was absolutely designed to discourage by giving them honest, true advice. It's a double edge sword.
Wes
Just wrote a song a couple of days ago with the title threading needles. I have been saying for years I am 10 yards from the haystack, trying to thread a needle...
I am here with my eyes open, I do not doubt my chance infinesimaly small, dont have the relationships, havent got to Nashville yet and probably althogh I attempt to write to Nashville sensibilities I do not hit it all the time (repeat - write enough songs) and had a NSAI review which said I sounded like Pink Floyd! what a pat on the back that was lol
SO I am under no illusion, and like the idea of striving for something that wont be given to me on a plate and may not be given to me at all. The human condition is struggle. Respect is given by me to people who go on climb the mountain break the four minutes take on the champ and I have made some great friends in music whom would have been unavailable otherwise.
Re the story about the BASS song (fingers down a blackboard to me) but have had heard this being covered in the old folk open mic, but they play Mustang Sally regulary as well!
Funny thing this week got banned from my long time pub (long sad story that one) but was listening to old recordings and I astounded how much the songs have changed over the years, really suprised. Could only say this must be something from playing to people and seeing reactions to what they liked, suppose.
Re current trends, well I dont care or worry about them per se, the new trends are already locked in or not available to write against, just try to write the best song I can and even gulp horror just suggested doing a wrap bridge on the Lyric forum to one of my songs...
Also think if you write enough songs you will get your volume up of the 98% of popular girl boy thingy songs LOL It is all about writing songs.
That noted, I still have experienced 100's of writers who become "booty hurt" over even the most constructive critique. They don't realize that even though someone compliments their writing and means well, they really aren't helping the writer to better their music or their skills. Which is why 9 out of 10 lyrics posted on a lot of these sites is of very poor quality. More poem than lyric. Lacks structure, rhyme scheme, story line, syllable counts, a decent hook, and many of the other things that are important to writing a good song. And that includes me too. Even after all of these years, I struggle daily with coming up with something that is new, refreshing and covers all the basics.
But then there is a second side to that. Even if someone comes in here or the lyric forums on other sites, works hard to develop their writing, and puts their best foot forward, it is only a matter of time before they learn the truth from people with experience in the business. And the truth is, there is no future for them in the business. Even if they are talented, sing well, play well, write well, the odds are still stacked against them. And the fact is, most of them are just lyricists and/or porch pickers like me. I've had too many people than I can count tell me that they quit coming in and writing just because they read through these forums and everything was absolutely designed to discourage by giving them honest, true advice. It's a double edge sword.
Wes
Just wrote a song a couple of days ago with the title threading needles. I have been saying for years I am 10 yards from the haystack, trying to thread a needle...
I am here with my eyes open, I do not doubt my chance infinesimaly small, dont have the relationships, havent got to Nashville yet and probably althogh I attempt to write to Nashville sensibilities I do not hit it all the time (repeat - write enough songs) and had a NSAI review which said I sounded like Pink Floyd! what a pat on the back that was lol
SO I am under no illusion, and like the idea of striving for something that wont be given to me on a plate and may not be given to me at all. The human condition is struggle. Respect is given by me to people who go on climb the mountain break the four minutes take on the champ and I have made some great friends in music whom would have been unavailable otherwise.
Re the story about the BASS song (fingers down a blackboard to me) but have had heard this being covered in the old folk open mic, but they play Mustang Sally regulary as well!
Funny thing this week got banned from my long time pub (long sad story that one) but was listening to old recordings and I astounded how much the songs have changed over the years, really suprised. Could only say this must be something from playing to people and seeing reactions to what they liked, suppose.
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